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Final fantasy legend / SaGa

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:18:25 No.2729912 View Reply Original Report

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Are the gameboy games a good place to start with the SaGa series? What are your thoughts on these games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 13:13:41 No.2729985 Report

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Sure, you can start with them, they're really old by now though and not all that representative of what the series became after them, outside of certain core mechanics being still used to this day.

SaGa 1 is really barebones now, back then it was revolutionary since it was the first handheld RPG, despite that it was relatively rich in mechanics for the time and featured a nice storyline that is still good nowadays, a lot of the mechanics are really janky for today's standards though.
SaGa 2 was more of SaGa 1, mostly polished what SaGa 1 started despite taking out some mechanics that would be reintroduced later, it does add Mechs as a new playable race and features a longer campaign than the original game, with various rebalances and fixes to the mechanics previously established, as a result it is noticeably less jank.
SaGa 3 is an outsider, to this day a lot of people don't consider it a true SaGa game and it's the least popular entry in the series, it was made by another team (The ones who'd later develop Mystic Quest/Rudra no Hihou) because Kawazu already moved on to developing Romancing SaGa 1 on SNES, but Square wanted another GB SaGa at all costs so they gave the project to a completely different team, and it shows.
Overall the game is really more of a Final Fantasy game than a SaGa game, it does keep a couple of mechanics from the previous games but the core ones are completely different, the general game design is very different, but it's still notable because it's more or less Chrono Trigger before Chrono Trigger.

After these games the series goes in a completely different direction, the GB games are simple, linear dungeon crawlers where you create a party of generics, after that the games become more focused on worldbuilding, nonlinearity and player choices, they still share the same core mechanics and philosophy but are overall different experiences.
But since all SaGa games are pretty unique you can start with whatever you want anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 15:35:50 No.2730138 Report

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They're jank and weird even by SaGa standards. Start with Frontier Remastered if you like the Science Fantasy mashup, or Scarlet Grace if you don't do well with cryptic objectives or hidden battle mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:47:02 No.2730700 Report

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So can you redpill me please based on this pic? SaGa is a series where high tech and high fantasy mix? Is one better or has the advantage over the other?

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BLACK SOULS thread

Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2022 19:57:57 No.2719209 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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The ultimate weapon of the game.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:29:05 No.2730679 Report

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>>2730580
>Anon do you live in bongland or what? Never in my life I had heard about somebody being fined for piracy.
I think Russia is one country whose inhabitants can get fined for pirating shit. Don't quote me on that though.

The other Anon is either paranoid or lives in one such pozzed country.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:29:35 No.2730680 Report

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>>2730665
>The princess is not a cosmic horror
Not this shit again, I can't....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:40:52 No.2730693 Report

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>>2730680
Theories and narrative point out that the true bad guy is either the Princess, The Narrator, the Narration, or any combinations.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:43:32 No.2730696 Report

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>>2730665
Pretty fun demo, to quote someone who has an empty soul, it seems to target a very specific demographic.
Talking about the Amazon/Oni Princess. God, she's HOT. Never thought I would look at a scene of our character having it's neck mercy snapped, and being fine with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:46:54 No.2730699 Report

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>>2730693
THIS TRAGIC PLAY WILL NEVER END

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jul 2022 21:23:08 No.2719392 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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This trinity of archetypes is a menace!
How do we get rid of it???

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:26:04 No.2730674 Report

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>>2730513
There's still an important distinction between thinking and deciding what characters should do, and actually doing it. Most of your post is good but if you are suggesting action gameplay supercedes thoughtful gameplay that is a very low iq take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:30:52 No.2730682 Report

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>>2727992
>combat: Thief injects potion seller tonics to win fights
>Spellcasting: Fighter casts spells by pummelling spirits responsible for physics
>Utility Skills: Mage sells coin that duplicates every time it's exchanged

Shooter, sneaker, talker are the true pillars of RPGs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:33:13 No.2730686 Report

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>>2730674
This implies turn based RPG combat is inherently thoughtful and that action combat isn't, when neither of those are true

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:45:56 No.2730697 Report

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>>2730652
Actually believing those posts weren't shitposts...

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:46:06 No.2730698 Report

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>>2722735

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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 15:13:54 No.2728666 View Reply Original Report

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Is this a "mainline" Final Fantasy game? Mainly I'm wondering if it's worth playing for the story and world, because I don't really give a shit about the MMO elements. I'm asking because it's on sale right now and apparently it doesn't go on sale too often.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 03:41:10 No.2729587 Report

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>>2729581
That being said if you know what you want then just go ahead and pick one up when you can and start leveling it on the side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 15:12:20 No.2730101 Report

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>>2729435
ToAU and WotG also retroactively flesh out and explain certain events from the base game that weren’t immediately obvious if you weren’t a turbo nerd who connected the plot threads together.
Like the Dark Divinity and what not.
Might be more obvious if you’re marathoning the stories though, versus there being potentially weeks or months between your bouts of progress when it was all current.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 15:14:11 No.2730104 Report

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>>2729551
If you want to do endgame content you’ll want to branch out and have several jobs of different roles available to help increase your flexibility and fill different roles.
THF is good for working on stories due to Treasure Hunter making it easier to get any drops you’ll need for story quests since many of them aren’t guaranteed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 18:22:07 No.2730352 Report

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>>2729464
>I don't think its even remotely as cynical of a cashgrab as you imply
I never called the whole thing a cynical cashgrab. I'm ONLY talking about the part where it's given number "XI" in the mainline flagship franchise.
> personal feelings on the game's debatable quality itself aside
I think FFXI is/was a very well made MMORPG. They took the Everquest formula and nailed it, delivering a game that was overall more polished with bits of innovation including an well-implemented addictive version of the "job system" and more of the storytelling that JRPG fans expect. I'm not claiming there was no passion or desire to make a high-quality game.

But it was still, essentially, an Everquest clone. It was not an evolution of the Final Fantasy formula it was something very different, no matter what team they had working on it.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:43:27 No.2730695 Report

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Is this true? How the fuck are the midgets the most popular race, and how are the catgirls that low?

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BG3: What causes this game to make schizos on this board have a meltdown?

Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 10:11:53 No.2725589 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:10:30 No.2730545 Report

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is the eldritch knight subclass any good? want to play as a battlemage when this comes out

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:15:19 No.2730557 Report

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>>2725589
I miss the times where tieflings and drows were considered as freaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:00:45 No.2730626 Report

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>>2730557
they are and i will murder the frog, the nigger barbarian, the manlet granny and the strong independent sharteel priest, then travel and rape the absolute in a party of white men

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:07:32 No.2730647 Report

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>>2728269
DivOS 2 was full of grimdark depressive stuff. I expect BG3 to not have so much of that shit. If it actually has, I'm going to just skip the entire game. I'm not interested in meeting the 10th cat or dog and hearing how their owner raped them after feeding them razor blades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:42:57 No.2730694 Report

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I think they are going to add in more of act 1 before full release, a lot of new voice lines were added in with this patch about shadow cursed lands just like leading up to with grymforge update.

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Age of Decedance

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 20:52:06 No.2683352 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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How do people find this game? I'm about to try it for the first time, all I know is people reccomend with not straying from your characters initial stats.
Also how is their next game, Colony Ship shaping up to be?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:45:39 No.2729944 Report

Quoted By: >>2730005

all this talk about the ordu makes me want to play it again as imperial guard, barely interacted with them as a thieves guild member going megakiller mode
i assume combat stats are the most important for IG?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 13:41:14 No.2730005 Report

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>>2729944
>No Crafting
Mad lad
Well in the Imperial Guard you have plenty of moment where secondary stats like Streetwise, Trading and Persuasion can be used.
My original build for Imperial Guard without lore is :
Mercenary/Drifter
8/8/7/7/6/4
Spear/Sword + Block and Alchemy (for strong poison, strong black powder bombs and berserk potion), get 10 Block asap while having a 2/3 ratio with Spear/Sword. The rest goes to Alchemy (and Crafting if you wish too but I prefer Streetwise and Trading). My usual gear is Kadmos' spear/Dreamwever and Impenetrable Shield from the Shield merchant (or Kadmos Shield is very good in 1vs1 fights) + Either Al-Sahir's Armor or the Lorica Blue Steel from the merchant and Kadmos' Helmet.

6 Intelligence is very useful to get an early promotion early on. And you can trade one point of Perception to go in Strength or Constitution for more damage but keep Perception high for better THC and to get the Air Mantra in Teron.
Keep your Power Modules, you need 3 of them to have a fully upgraded Power Armor (1 from the Aurelian mines, 2 from Harran Pass you need 300 gold, 1 from Curio merchant you 1500 gold, 1 from Ancient Site where there is Flying Machine, 2 if you have 4 Lockpicks in the Well in Maadoran).
If you dont want Power Armor, Widowmaker armor is the best and combine it with Impenetrable.
If you want a better Cellular Regen, get 10 Alchemy asap and craft your own Lich potion.

Have fun lad, there is also another way to play but its more min maxxing and more frustration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 13:42:15 No.2730006 Report

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>>2730005
>2 from Harran Pass you need 300 gold
3000*

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 19:46:03 No.2730484 Report

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>>2730005
Heres my character upon completion of Teron
Hoard on all the Alchemy components so you have enough quicksilver, bomb powder and shrooms to finish all the hard fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:40:48 No.2730692 Report

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So is the implication behind the sphere you need for Godhood being at Harran's Pass (in the routes that don't go through the inn clusterfuck) that Gracius survived the events at Teron only to get raided by the Imperial Guards when he was travelling with a caravan later?

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Anonymous Thu 04 Aug 2022 07:47:25 No.2725488 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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Tactics Ogre Reborn finally announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osHD91sQUOk
thoughts? I'm hoping the filter is an option, but I kind of doubt it will be. also this means the FFT remake is happening as well, so I'm curious when they'll announce that

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:07:56 No.2730648 Report

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>>2730643
Probably be alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:17:27 No.2730664 Report

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>>2729975
blood war sounds goofy asf. Censorship never bothered me in jap vidya. Is there one game in particular where its bad that it really degrades the experience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:21:10 No.2730670 Report

Quoted By: >>2730689

Wouldn't something like blood war fit better for the time period? A term like ethnic cleansing seems modern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:34:43 No.2730689 Report

Quoted By: >>2730691

>>2730670
just how new do you think the term "ethnic cleansing" is?
It's a game with very hard themes partially inspired by the Yugoslav wars in general and the ethnic cleansing of Bosnia in particular

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:39:35 No.2730691 Report

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>>2730689
Didn't the term really catch on in 90s with the yugoslav wars?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 20:52:31 No.2729067 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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>tell God you don't believe in him while beating the shit out of him

based

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:41:30 No.2730593 Report

Quoted By: >>2730668

>>2730342
If we assume the Bible is true then the biblical god is severely obsessed with being praised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:11:12 No.2730656 Report

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>>2729485
>literally can't go back to your own ancestors' gods because the creators of your own culture have either wiped them out of existence or your so use to them being fairy tale figures that you can't take worshiping them seriously.
>So you still have to depend on literally the off-brand version of the very religion responsible for their destruction

Gotta say, /x/ if fantastically stupid. I'm not even going to go into the Mithras Theory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:20:27 No.2730668 Report

Quoted By: >>2730678

>>2730593
Ah, you only want to engage with mouth-breathers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:28:51 No.2730678 Report

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>>2730668
I want to engage with the topic at hand and not a random non-sequitur

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:37:37 No.2730690 Report

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Quite interesting to see Judeo-Christian fags adjust to the shitposting age. They used to be so easy to rhetorically tear apart.

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Rogue Trader

Anonymous Tue 26 Jul 2022 06:06:55 No.2711475 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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I will never use a filthy space wolf.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:14:51 No.2730661 Report

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>>2730651
virgin they are going to use your desires to corrupt you if your balls are permanently empty you can't be tempted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:25:56 No.2730673 Report

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>>2727773
that's one chuddy eldar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:26:23 No.2730675 Report

Quoted By: >>2730688

>>2730661
But with slut you have strong and easy to manipulate dopamine pathways, which don't exist on a virgin at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:28:15 No.2730676 Report

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>>2728983
Those are minor differences. The rule books all pride themselves on being modular in that a dark heresy character could walk into a black crusade campaign and a death watch character could walk into a rogue trader campaign etc. Yes of course power levels are different but the rules are the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:33:52 No.2730688 Report

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>>2730675
Only if you go too far into the slut skill tree, if you limit yourself to sleeping with your one or two concubines you should be fine

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Pathfinder

Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 12:06:49 No.2728464 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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Remember to dip Monk.
Everyone should have a bit of Monk with them.
Especially Sorcerers.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:16:36 No.2730663 Report

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>>2730658
Autistic build-mechanics does not take high IQ, merely patience and rote memorisation of given facts. Internal-consistency is far more fluid and requires more individual decision making.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:25:56 No.2730672 Report

Quoted By: >>2730677 >>2730684

sorc for variety or kineticist for blast? Cant decide ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:28:29 No.2730677 Report

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>>2730672
The former needs resting once in a while. The latter can truck on and on.
Pick the one that harmonises with the rest of the party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:32:02 No.2730684 Report

Quoted By: >>2730687

>>2730672
Sorc because this isn't ATLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:33:48 No.2730687 Report

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>>2730684
>ATLA
wut

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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 05:07:57 No.2728142 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2729953 >>2729961 >>2729962

Opinions?

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:44:13 No.2729942 Report

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>>2729854
it was shit from the first episode you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:49:53 No.2729953 Report

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>>2728142
Extremely boring game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:55:05 No.2729961 Report

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>>2728142
its good i enjoyed it
ofc it has its flaws but i still recommend it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 12:55:43 No.2729962 Report

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>>2728142
babies first RPG. not to say its bad. in fact, its pretty good since it sets out what it wants to do and do so perfectly.

felt like you were part of an south park episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:32:30 No.2730685 Report

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>>2729553
For the first game? I don't recall what the difficulties were called but I did that one on the hardest and its only tough for the first couple fights before you've unlocked things and the aliens if you rush the story. I didn't do the second on a harder difficulty yet, but I'll give it a shot I guess. I was concerned it would just make the combat take longer kinda like the first game though.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 22:09:18 No.2729179 View Reply Original Report

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What's the best dungeon in an Elder Scrolls game and why?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 19:18:11 No.2730423 Report

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>>2730384
>He can't read a single (1) paragraph
Todd-sama I kneel, you were completely right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 19:25:07 No.2730439 Report

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>>2730256
This is why i hate modding.
Just install basic ingame mod manager, a ui mod then get an overhaul you like or if you use nexus a mod package.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 19:59:04 No.2730524 Report

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>>2730256
Exactly. Scrolls has been dead to me ever since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:30:37 No.2730681 Report

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>>2729507
Sheo likely orchestrated all the events preceding and during the game. Why would he do that? Because he wanted to see what would happen afterwords.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:31:27 No.2730683 Report

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>>2729179
Can a house be a dungeon? The dark brotherhood quest in Oblivion was very memorable.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Aug 2022 14:06:14 No.2728588 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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What are some underappreciated RPGs that deserved more attention?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:02:56 No.2730531 Report

Quoted By: >>2730669

>>2730446
>hipsters
>playing a Dark Sun game
lol they'd have a vax induced heart attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:07:24 No.2730536 Report

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>>2729802
Pre-Original Sin Divinity series. They were mentioned in the thread.
Single player mid-2000s Drakensang games.
Space Siege, always in the shadow of Dungeon Siege.
There are some interesting slavjank titles but i won't bore you with them.
>>2730393
https://youtu.be/Uj0o7E-hbvA

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:14:12 No.2730660 Report

Quoted By: >>2730671

>>2730493
Someone truly interested in the history of CRPGs should start in the early 80s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:21:09 No.2730669 Report

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>>2730531
He means 4chan hipster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:21:28 No.2730671 Report

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>>2730660
With Ultima IV and Pool of Radiance, yes.

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the only good choice

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 02:37:19 No.2729535 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2729988 >>2730137 >>2730667

he is the only good choice

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 13:17:02 No.2729988 Report

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>>2729535
>his empire tear itself apart once he died which is around 30 to 40 years max

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 15:35:17 No.2730137 Report

Quoted By: >>2730232

>>2729535
I decapitated him and left his head to rot upon his throne.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 16:50:49 No.2730232 Report

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>>2730137
Based and Conan the barbarian pilled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 19:47:18 No.2730489 Report

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>>2729590
that's not very Hegelian of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:18:55 No.2730667 Report

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>>2729535
>bunch of retards that will start killing each other as soon as "Caesar" dies

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Anonymous Fri 05 Aug 2022 18:13:28 No.2727530 View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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How unavoidable is crowd control in Underrail? I feel like throwing is a must even if you go stealth, or at least traps. I just don't see how you can funnel / destroy all those mobs rushing at you unless you have some crowd control / disables. Even the cover art shows crowd control.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:42:52 No.2730596 Report

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>>2730592
you will see tanner almost immediately and die

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:53:47 No.2730611 Report

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>>2730483
>>no mention spears
Spears are so painfully unremarkable, at least hammers have big bonk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 20:58:05 No.2730619 Report

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>>2730112
kek, that's awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:04:44 No.2730640 Report

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>>2730554
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMDBgMFDgwAAAAAwoLCggA6RgA7CVQqKgbCoMKgwqBGJQA_OSQrLD0qLmdlIRwPI2bCvnLCt8KnbcKdwq7Dh2wa4qGaBeKjiQXirIwD4rm8At-_

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Anonymous Sun 07 Aug 2022 21:18:40 No.2730666 Report

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>>2730566
yeah, we play it for no reason
heres your (you)

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